Posted March 29, 2011 by Larz Cosby in Voice of a CERU. 115 Comments
Need I say more?
2005 and nothing was done?
Posted by Brandon on March 29, 2011 at 10:46 pm
A thoughtful and sincere statement. The Cosby’s are showing us the best way to handle intolerance and indifference. I hope that the most appropriate actions are taken and the outcomes of this terrible situation are suitable for all parties. This is a situation that has polarized many people, but could, hopefully, create more tolerance and stronger bonds throughout Alta High and its surrounding communities.
Posted by Phineas on March 30, 2011 at 8:55 pm
I support you. I am glad you have decided to help show people in Utah a side that few have the ability to see. The life of being a minority. 15 years ago I would probably have been one of the kids on here making fun of the subject. I realize now that it is serious. I feel sorrow that you and others in Utah feel this intolerance due to the level of ignorance that exists. Please know that you are not alone in this stance, and that even includes those of us who are white but still can feel empathy for any situation.
Posted by mile_man on April 1, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Wow, this is absolutely ridiculous. Regardless of if it was racist or not, Larz is literally the only person, other than his dad, who was offended by this. Why not just toughen up and get on with life?
Posted by mile_man on April 1, 2011 at 2:36 pm
By the way, how come we haven’t heard MacKay’s take on this? Why doesn’t HE get the chance to defend himself? Oh, it’s probably because he’s a racist bigot, right? Come on Larz, this isn’t how the real world works. You’re not always going to be able to call “racist” every time someone looks at you the wrong way. Grow up.
Posted by brando on April 1, 2011 at 5:37 am
Brandon You are wong
Posted by Brandon on April 1, 2011 at 4:30 pm
I’d be happy to know why you feel that way. Please elaborate…
Posted by Josh on April 6, 2011 at 4:10 am
I’ll help him elaborate. Mr. Cosby, Larz’s father, is writing a book about racism. Doesn’t it seem a little odd the his son would be the only african american at this school that was offended by this? It does seem a little odd to me. He has a book to promote man!!! What better way to promote it than being on local and possibly national television. Congrats to the Cosby’s for their advertising skills. Bravo. Love it. This whole thing should have never gotten this far.
Posted by Chris Jones on March 29, 2011 at 10:55 pm
My name is Chris Jones from 2 News in Salt Lake City. drop me a line on the email above I’d like to talk to you about some of the recent developements at your school
Posted by ... on March 29, 2011 at 11:18 pm
yeah, and his dad is writing a book on the thing… Destroying a community for your own financial gain, eh?
Posted by ... on March 29, 2011 at 11:22 pm
And you’ve destroyed Mackay’s life. Way to go. You SHOULD be proud of yourself.
Posted by Brandon on March 29, 2011 at 11:34 pm
MacKay’s life is not destroyed. In fact, this situation could enrich his life even further if he is sincerely sorry for what has transpired.
He will most certainly learn a lot about who he is and who he wants to be while working through this process. The magnitude of everyone’s feelings, especially his, will lessen over time.
Posted by ... on March 29, 2011 at 11:39 pm
by losing a scholarship to a college? Because Larz took this to the news, Mackay has to suffer worse consequences he deserved. Larz COULD NOT just work with the administration to remedy the situation.
Posted by Brandon on March 29, 2011 at 11:44 pm
I think you are missing the point. Losing the scholarship is part of the repercussions. While it is sad that he is losing a scholarship, it doesn’t mean he is now completely unable to go to college. Larz is not the reason for MacKay losing his scholarship.
He will just have to work harder by funding his own way through college. If he is a hard worker, he can get good grades during his first semester in college and earn more scholarships. When we make mistakes in life, we have to work much harder to pick ourselves back up, otherwise we don’t learn from our mistakes.
Posted by ... on March 29, 2011 at 11:49 pm
And your missing the point that Larz has gone way out of his way to make this a bigger deal than it was and is. He refused to handle it with the administration, and instead went home THAT NIGHT to write a half-truthed blog about it. Then, he went to the news, just so he could make it even a bigger deal. I think Larz has handled the situation completely wrong. And, like I said up there, maybe for his dad’s personal gain with writing a book. OR Larz has grown up hating Mormons and white people and found a perfect opportunity to strike at both groups here.
Posted by Brandon on March 30, 2011 at 12:03 am
I don’t think the intent was to make this situation larger than life. I have seen a lot of posts assuming that Larz and his family completely bypassed the administration, which I don’t think is true. It seems to me that the administration may not have been supportive of Larz and his family on this issue. If I felt that the administration didn’t have my son’s best interests in mind, I would find other avenues to make sure that his safety and comfort were taken seriously.
Not sure exactly of the details for the reason that Alta’s administration is suspended, but they are not blameless in this situation either. They are suspended right now because they initially did not consider or create a safe environment for its minority student body.
Posted by Mike on March 30, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Wow. After reading several comments about this situation, I find it hard to believe that most of the comments are about Larz. Here is a hard pill to swallow. If Mackay did not act in the manner that he did, we would not be having this discussion. Let’s concentrate on correcting the behavior and not condemning the victim. No matter how Larz handled the situation it was Mackay that is at fault. I have seen several comments about how “Mackay’s life is destroyed”. Really, his life is destroyed?? He will never be able to move on after this? Always stuck reliving March 18th 2011? I think these blogs are blowing that out of proportion. Mackay, intentional or not, will need to learn from his mistake and move on. For all the people out there saying “it’s no big deal”? Really, try doing that at East, West or Granger high school. I guarantee you the news article would be a lot different. The only reason people are saying “it’s no big deal” it’s because most of them live in Sandy. East side Sandy is mostly made up of Caucasians that are better off than most people in Utah. I had a Sandy person try to yell at me for driving around too close to his beautiful black truck. So I know the mind set in Sandy. Mackay messed up, and the administration should bear the brunt of the punishment for allowing this type of event to happen. Larz hang tough and have courage, you did the right thing.
Posted by manaen on March 31, 2011 at 6:36 am
The victim destroyed the perpetrator’s life? It will take me a while to understand how you could write that sentence. I prefer a world in which someone is responsible for the consequences of his actions. Try living in it some time.
Posted by Barbara on March 29, 2011 at 11:25 pm
I don’t think the community will be destroyed. I believe it will be strengthened and unified. There are too many wonderful people in the community to let this happen. I believe that once people really start listening to each other and respecting differences, that it will be better than it was. There will, no doubt be change. But, change is a good thing. Lives and reputations will recover. The glass is half full right now. If the community works together, the glass will become full.
Posted by ... on March 29, 2011 at 11:35 pm
What about Mackay? He’s lost everything thanks to Larz’s blatant lies and over-exaggerations on this blog that should have never been created. AND he went to the news. He COULD HAVE handled this with the administration at Alta, but instead he took this opportunistic to ruin Mackay’s life and the community surrounding Alta. MAYBE Larz is the racist against white people, because it sure looks like it from here.
Posted by MAMB on March 30, 2011 at 12:31 am
As Brandon has said Mackay has to deal with the repercussion of his actions. I feel like there is a bigger issue here we could be focusing in rather then the fact that Mackay has lost his scholarships. He was the one who chose to put the pillow case on his head meaning he will be the one to suffer the consequences
Posted by CalmDown on March 30, 2011 at 1:43 am
Mackay didn’t lose everything, he lost a few privileges, which is to be expected. If you read the blog again, there are no outright lies. I know how it is at Alta, I’m a student there. A lot of the ‘lies’ you think are in the blog really aren’t. A friend, who I trust very much, witnessed Mackay laughing at Larz, which could easily be taken as taunting. Larz’s reaction to this is totally acceptable. Larz comes from an area where the demographic is a little bit different than 98% white. I’m sure he tried to handle it with the administration. I’m also sure the administration blew it off like it was a joke. What else could he do? When the news contacted him, he did the right thing by taking their offer. It’s the news station’s fault if Alta’s reputation is diminished. Also, your allogation that Larz is racist and against Mormons is ridiculous. A lot (not all) of the mormons around here are very judgmental of people who are not mormon. What would you think if you came to a new place and people from one faith were making fun of you for not being a part of that faith. Larz took offense to an action that portrayed a hate group, I don’t call that racist, I call that normal. Calm down … and think about what you’re saying before you say it.
Posted by Debi on March 30, 2011 at 2:39 am
I’m very frustrated to read ‘no name’s’ comments. He/she is missing the point and if I hear one more person say “it was no big deal” or “blown out of proportion” I might lose it. Everyone who feels this way I’m almost positive are white and of the majority. One person can’t say what another person’s perception is or should be with a given situation. We all have had different experiences that have led us and made us who we are today. I am white, a little older and mortified at the incident. All of my children have gone to Alta and I try to imagine what I would do if my child made that decision that day. I would probably educate them big time and go to the media ourselves and give a sincere apology to everyone that had to witness it, Larz and his parents. As far as Larz hating white people, didn’t he say he is biracial? I’m guessing that there is a white parent quite possibly.
Lastly, my husband works with an African American parent who’s child goes to the school and their child also came home saying how uncomfortable they felt during the incident. It wasn’t just Larz. Brandon, keep up the education.
Posted by ... on March 30, 2011 at 3:31 am
Okay, putting the consequences for ‘Mackay’ aside, let me put this simple for all you simple-minded people.
Right after the spirit bowl, Larz sees Mackay in Spanish, and gets upset, and leaves. Instead of going to the administration to tell them of the incident, he calls his father. His father, who grew up in Utah, already has a chip on his shoulder, so he tells Larz to report it to the administration, then later that night probably tells Larz to start a blog and contact the news to get the whole situation really fired up, not even letting the school handle the situation. The reason Larz’s father would do this isn’t completely known but here’s a list of possibilities for you:
1-Larz’s father has a chip of his shoulder from racism in previous decades in Utah
2-Larz’s Father has an oppritunity to incite some sort of payback by making the whole school suffer for the actions of one or two people.
3-Larz’s father is writing a book and this story would sure make the book sell better.
Okay, so Larz’s father tells Larz to write this unnecessary blog AND contact the news, just to make sure this situation burns wildly out of control. Which it now has. Welcome to hell. Sandy dispatches nearly a dozen officers to Alta in fear of some ‘racial riot’ earlier today. The district has to waste our tax dollars and their time on launching an investigation.
So now the whole school looks racist because, leave it to the news to blow things even higher in the sky. Alta students are all miserable about this whole thing. Now we may never hear the end of it.
So, here’s a nice list for you:
Larz handles incident with administration:
1-Mackay gets an appropriate consequence, school continues on, little to no problems.
Larz does what he did, reporting to new and writing his stupid blog:
1-Mackay gets humiliated by everyone and anyone who watches the new or goes to the school.
2-The district wastes their time with an investigation.
3-The Alta students now have to deal with this everyday.
4-Sandy police are scared of some big ‘racial riot’ occurring.
5-The school has been branded ‘racist’
What Mackay did was wrong and he didn’t think of the consequences to his actions.
What Larz did was wrong, destroying a whole community because he didn’t think of his actions. ( his dad wanted to make more money on his book and had a score to settle)
so there you are, think about it…. just think… It all adds up too well. Larz should be ashamed of himself for taking the offense in this situation and his dad should be too, at the least.
Posted by ... on March 30, 2011 at 3:37 am
just think about it, reason it our and make your own opinion. I did. I initially thought Larz did the right thing until he contacted the news organizations and wrote a half-truthed blog. “I didn’t know the KKK was part of my high school spirit bowl” — that is by far his worst quote in there, branding the whole school of being racists, which is totally wrong. Way to go Larz. I hope you are reading this and realizing what you have done to this community of ours. Way to go. You have also alienated yourself at Alta doing this, so I just hope you are happy.
Posted by KD on April 1, 2011 at 2:46 pm
For all of you who say that is was blown out of proportion or that Larz made a bigger deal of this than what it was: how would it feel if Larz showed up in temple clothing or baptismal clothing? It’s white and could pass for Spirit Week – it’s all in fun, right?
It is not fun or funny when it comes to discrimination; as one who grew up (I’m 70 years old) in Compton California, I am very aware of how discrimination breeds hatred. Parents: teach your children that we are ALL equal, no matter the ethnicity, race, gender, etc. I cannot believe for one second that MacKay didn’t know what he was doing! If you believe that, I have some beachfront property to sell you in Sandy!
P.S: MacKay’s life is NOT over; however, he will have to live with the consequences of his decision – albeit painful consequences.
Posted by Xana on March 29, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Larz you are an amazing young man. I’m sorry you have to deal with this. Your parents have done their job. Keep fighting the good fight and know that there are countless people supporting you.
Posted by ... on March 30, 2011 at 12:01 am
I agree wholeheartedly
Posted by Jessica Cassity on March 30, 2011 at 4:23 am
I don’t think any of you understand the hell we’ve been put through at Alta because of Larz…remember who your encouraging.
Posted by matt on March 31, 2011 at 2:45 am
Get over it Jessica, you’ll understand when you’re older. Life goes on after High School.
Posted by ... on March 31, 2011 at 3:23 am
Jessica has it right here, Alta is going through hell, the students have to go through all this procedural BS and the whole Sandy police force stationed there as well. It’s not what HE’S dealing with now. The whole school has to deal with this and the news skewing the story beyond belief.
Anybody here commenting should NOT rely on the news for their facts, because the news has their facts completely wrong, partially thanks to Mr. Cosby here.
Posted by manaen on March 31, 2011 at 6:42 am
@ Jessica, you have a typo: you wrote “Larz” when clearly it was his offender who’s putting Alta through hell. I understand how the idiocy of the offender’s actions could raise your emotion to where could miss that but you should be more careful to not appear to blame the victim for what someone else did to him.
Posted by Ash on March 31, 2011 at 4:40 pm
I am so proud of Lars for speaking up about this incident. I cannot imagine how hard it must have been for him to stand up against someone so ignorant and so unapologetic. His poor family, having been put through hell because of this. I canNOT believe that there are people out there who think this has been blown out of proportion. I hope more people in our country are notified about this incident. That ANYONE would don a costume that in ANY way resembles a member of the KKK is stupefying to me and I am sick inside thinking of it.
I was born in Mobile, AL and raised in Taylorsville, UT. I am also a white Mormon and I do not think Larz did ANYTHING wrong. I commend him for his bravery! This situation reminds me vaguely of the Little Rock Nine who had to pass through a gauntlet of jeering racists who blamed them for the elevated situation, when in reality all the Little Rock Nine wanted was a chance to go to a public school that was in a convenient location. The hateful and ignorant comments on this blog telling Larz and his family that they have “ruined MacKay’s life” or “put Alta High through hell” seem to me a cyber-gauntlet, and I am very proud of Larz for dealing with it with grace and dignity.
For those who claim he shouldn’t have gotten the media involved? I used to WORK in a news station. We had police scanners going all the time and consistently made outbound calls looking for a news story. When people did call in stories, it had to go through several editors before a crew was sent out. I find it HIGHLY unlikely that Larz and his family were the ones to hail the media. Like as not, they descended on their own.
I’m so ashamed to find out that this sort of ignorance still exists in our country. Not really surprised … but ashamed, nonetheless. Anyone with an IQ of over 70 who has gone to the public school system SHOULD KNOW the attire of the KKK and should know that it is UNACCEPTABLE to imitate them in ANY way. This may have just been a stupid prank, but it exposed a gaping sore in our society, that this “prank” could polarize people so. I can’t believe there are any people supporting the offender, and yet, here you are, spewing hatred all over this blog. Since when is making a blog post about something “attention-seeking”? I cannot believe that people who say things like that are true Americans or members of any religion that preaches kindness and love.
Larz and Mister Cosby, my prayers are with you and I think y’all are very, VERY brave.
Posted by Mike on March 30, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Posted by shelby on March 30, 2011 at 12:10 am
Obviously Larz is an attention seeker if he had to create a blog just about the incident. The news covered everything i read in the blog. Why did he have to go to the news? He couldn’t solve it with the boy and his parents? Larz is known for being a bully. This is damaging the kids future. Although it is sad and racism is a problem, its not like it is never directed. They teach us all the time at school it is not acceptable. Just how its not acceptable to rob but still few people do it. This is a 16/17 year old teenage boy. He is still learning about life and i’m sure he is in enough trouble with school and parents. There is no need for him to go to court
Posted by ... on March 30, 2011 at 3:38 am
hit the nail on the head right there! nice summary!
Posted by your name on March 30, 2011 at 12:14 am
Posted by Kellie on March 30, 2011 at 12:34 am
What about Mackay??? He has lost everything because of his ignorance and stupidity, not Larz. What happen to taking responsibility for yourself and your actions. If Mackay didn’t do what HE did in the first place then Larz wouldn’t have had to take action.
Posted by Dallas Crane on March 30, 2011 at 12:50 am
Larz, shame on you. You have taken what could have been a peaceful resolution to an offensive situation and turned it into a divisive strike at the entire student body of Alta. I initially supported you. What I thought you did standing up to McKay was cool, but you quickly turned away from that. It could have been resolved quietly, behind doors and without undue embarassment, pain and attacks you have caused. You have hunted down Mckay to take everything from him you can. Do you think he honestly deserved to lose a scholarship? is that honestly a good solution? or does that make you feel better? Your war cries for tolerance are half-hearted and hurtful, yelled out only to further your selfish motives. Mckay was the one who was wrong in the first place, but he is so much more of a man than you are for doing what was right after he admitted his mistake. You, on the other hand, have relentlessly pursued him and pulled the media and district into your personal problems. You practically have the media eating out of your hands; feeding them your half-truths and distorted tales of racism gone awry. I think it’s time for you to step back, stop what you have done not only to Mckay, but to the entire student body of Alta, apologize and fix what you have broken.
It’s sad that you are only a junior, for Alta has to call you their own for another entire year.
Posted by ... on March 30, 2011 at 3:00 am
And his dad is writing a book on the whole thing… Almost makes you look like you turned this whole situation around purely for spite and personal profit, doesn’t it?
Posted by Jessica Cassity on March 30, 2011 at 4:28 am
I agree 110% that is exactly how i feel!
Posted by Brandon on March 30, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Handling racism behind closed doors is how many in this country would like for things to happen. That way racism doesn’t exist in the minds of these people. Racism takes on many different forms and this incident is just one of them. You are welcome to call this intolerance, but they are one in the same.
Sweeping these issues under the rug is the wrong response and further perpetuates racism in our countries and communities. This is precisely the reason why the administration is suspended and also why the local media is involved in this situation.
The issue at Alta High illustrates that racism may be more prevalent in Utah communities than most want to believe. Being a minority in Utah, I have experienced racism and have continued experience it and hear of others’ stories of hate and intolerance around the Wasatch valley. This is a difficult time for Alta High, but is also promising. Learn from what is going on and educate others on the dangers of intolerance and racism, in any form!
Posted by manaen on March 31, 2011 at 6:37 am
Posted by Dallas Crane on May 14, 2011 at 2:25 am
Brandon, i am sorry that you have experienced racism, but that isn’t the issue. Racism is being used as a cover-all here for something that was completely legal to do. the issue is not whether we agree with the actions of either side. As offensive as it was to Larz for Mckay’s actions, mckay had his rights of freedom of speech to do so. Mckay faced school charges which were a tad over the top but still allowable. It would be great to see Mckay sue for slander and/or libel charges that resulted from Larz’s insistent attacks. after all, Larz knew firsthand that his information given to the newspapers were fraudulent.
Posted by The Black Panther on March 30, 2011 at 12:59 am
Posted by franny on March 30, 2011 at 1:03 am
it’s sad how people will go out of there way just to hate with all these comments, that immature xenophobic little kid deserves to have his scholarship taken away it’s obvious he can’t even handle college life if he’s act this immature and close minded?
I dont see how this is being blown out of proportion?
it’s sad how people are trying to find justification for a white male that threw a kkk hood over his head and started taunting and chanting racial slurs at a student of color?
how do you justify hatred?
Posted by Jessica Cassity on March 30, 2011 at 4:32 am
You are so ignorant that is so far from what really happened. Besides wearing his class colors in front of the seniors he did no such thing. Believe I saw it, I know what happened. I think it’s funny you call that hatred…
Ps. where’d you get racist slurs?? Give me a break…
Posted by Anon on March 30, 2011 at 10:31 am
Stop telling lies for your friend, Jessica.
Posted by Brandon on March 30, 2011 at 5:23 pm
I think it’s fair to say that the administration deserves some blame as well. It was never a good idea to let each class represent colors such as black, white and red.
Those are all colors that are very much tied to racial topics, which are already divisive issues. There should have been some limitations or rules for appropriateness as to how students would be have or have worn during the Spirit Assembly. Instead the administration allowed students to enter into a situation that had the potential (which became a reality) to divide and separate a student body in an extremely negative way.
Realistically, there should have been a different theme entirely for the Spirit Assembly!
Posted by Ridiculous on April 14, 2011 at 7:17 am
Brandon- I just moved from alta & my new school has spirit bowls as well as most other high schools. Our colors are blue and gold…altas just happen to be red black & white…are you telling me that if you were a principal (waay before this “racist” thing happened) you would actually think about it being a potentially racist activity!? Give me a break. If this whole thing had never happenes, no ome would think of it as anything but a school function..otherwise calls from parents would have been made years ago…
Posted by Former Mormon on March 30, 2011 at 2:01 am
Don’t stand for racism. Remove your name from the records of the Mormon church. Learn how at http://www.mormoncensus.com
The teaching of racism is only but one of the many reasons why I removed my name from the records of the Mormon church.
The church to this day still teaches racism. The following is a scripture from the Book of Mormon:
“And God had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them. And thus saith the Lord God; I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities.” (2 Nephi 5:21)
That is only one of many racist scriptures taught to the youth in the Mormon church.
(This is not an anti-Mormon statement. This is an anti-racism statement.)
Posted by U 47 2 B MT on March 30, 2011 at 2:32 am
U 47 2 B MT
Posted by Debi on March 30, 2011 at 2:45 am
I agree. How can you justify that? “Don’t breed hate people, don’t breed hate!”
Posted by Angi B class of 10 on March 30, 2011 at 2:57 am
Either way, Mackay should have thought before he put the pillowcase on his head. If he’s too immature to not think someone will take offence to that then he’s not ready to go to college. The twit deserved to have his scholarship taken away. And even if this was resolved peacefully who’s to say they wouldn’t have taken it away in the first place. It may not have been directed at any one in particular, but people will take offence, no matter what.
I, too, don’t see how it’s being blown out of proportion, and the next person I see that says that. I’ll scream. This was never a problem at Alta when I was a student there, and I graduated in 2010. Comes to show a lot happens in a year. LARZ I give you props for bringing this to the public eye. Stop it before it escalates to something worse, such as hate crimes. I am white and hearing what this Mackay did, I find it offensive. Again LARZ I congratulate you, also keep your head up, and love your haters At least they’re still thinking of you.
Posted by Jessica Cassity on March 30, 2011 at 4:44 am
Go ahead scream cuz I’m saying it’s being blown out of proportion. I went to alta last and this year and i can tell you its NO different what so ever. Stop being a follower and labeling the whole student body.
Posted by Wtf on April 14, 2011 at 7:25 am
Angi B- How can you find it racist…youre white. Haha
Wow. Calling a kid youve never met a twit? Yes. You are so mature. Maybe mackay should act more like you…
And how could you say hes not mature enough for college? Thats still a few years away for him. Plus, all those “great, responsible, adults” in college are mostly out partying their nights away, doing drugs and having sex with someone new everyday….yeah, I can see how hes not mature enough for that yet as a JUNIOR in high school…
Posted by charlesschwaab on March 30, 2011 at 3:26 am
all details af this blog and story aside, i find it interesting that the decisions of two groups of students (defined as those that are harrassing, and those that are harrassed) have led to the suspension of two leaders. Most of you (and all those posting on the sltrib website) are assuming that the principal and vice principal have been put on Paid Administrative Leave because of wrongdoing. This is NOT the case at all. read the story folks. this is no different than an officer involved shooting in the police department.
I have known Mont Widerberg, principal of Alta High School, since i was very young, and i have never had reason to question his motives or his desires to influence young people for the better. He was the vice principal of my highschool, that coincidentally was close to fifty percent hispanic, and had good relationships with his students! He was missed when he left (even if his strict enforcement of rules was not missed by some). Funny how most people commenting and judging fail to remember that Mont Widerberg has been in the newsreel earlier in his career at Alta Highschool. He was criticized and slashed in the media, and by MANY WHITE, well to do parents of athletes when he stood up for morals when the baseball coach took his team to hooters while on a school tournament trip. He was criticized then for standing up, and now criticized for supposedly not doing his part to prevent it!
How about for once we allow those that committed the act suffer the consequences, and maybe give some support to the leaders trying their best to help raise our youth. maybe then we’ll see some real changes in our society…
Posted by Dallas Crane on May 14, 2011 at 2:32 am
Mont Widerberg was forced to retire by our none-too-bright superintendent. If you have been following any of “Dr” doty’s actions this year, it would be clear that he is a power freak. This is not the first time that teachers or faculty have been reprimanded or called out for not supporting district choices. The art department was harassed by the district (under doty’s orders) because they were against the specialized diplomas. This issue is, among other things, being taken for personal gain, both obviously with Larz and his father and also with the district.
Posted by Junior at Alta on March 30, 2011 at 4:25 am
I am a Junior at Alta High School. I am not friends with Mackay or Larz, but i was at the assembly and saw it all. Mackay did not get up two or three times with the “Heil Hitler” sign. He (with his hood) got up once, ran around in a circle, with BOTH his arms up, and sat back down. It was 30 seconds tops. There was no chanting “white pride” and “black pride”, like I heard on the news this morning.
I am not trying to insult Larz, I’m just trying to set things straight. I agree that Mackay should get punished for his actions. He wasn’t thinking, and it was an idiotic thing to do.
However, I believe this whole ordeal was blown out of the water. When I got to school this morning there were five cop cars and four news vans in front of the school. This situation is giving Alta a bad name. You didn’t deserve to be treated that way Larz, but Mackay didn’t deserve all of this.
Posted by Jessica Cassity on March 30, 2011 at 4:39 am
What about Mormons.. there’s constant death threats, racial critism,speculation, etc.. going on daily. Funny how all you people and the media don’t even give it a second thought. But OH Larz comes along and the whole world revolves around him….
Posted by Anon on March 30, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Oh Jessica, you crack me up. The poor put-upon Mormons! Your lives are so hard with the “constant death threats” and all!
Posted by fro on March 31, 2011 at 11:11 pm
that’s because the mormon religion is a fake (or better yet, a cult) dreamed up by a con-artist…Joseph Smith
Posted by rmgarder on March 31, 2011 at 11:37 pm
POOR PUT UPON MOROMN’S, I am one of those “MORMONS” and have been “PUT” upon more by people of my “OWN” religion that any of my black friends. MORMON’S are the most judgmental, bigoted people I have every known. So I don’t feel sorry for the MORMONS at Alta High School, they bring it on them selves!
Posted by KD on April 1, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Jessica, Jessica, Jessica,
I hope you have learned a valuable lesson – to watch your actions and words. We hear about it almost daily – from the people who post inappropriate comments on Facebook to incidents video/audiotaped from cell phones.
For being one of those “Mormons”, I can tell you that I have never had a death threat or even worried about my safety. However, it would do you, and others at Alta High, some good to read about “Sundown Towns”, the Watts Riots and the biography of Harriet Beecher Stowe (and a few other books on discrimination, hatred, etc)
There is a saying that most of us old folks can relate to: “Those who don’t learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.” Please learn from the past so no form of discrimination continues at Alta High or anywhere else.
Posted by HV on April 1, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Another good book to read would be “They Called Themselves the KKK–The Birth of an American Terrorist Group, pub. 2010″. That this young man’s choice is being defended by anyone is unconscionable. I hope he, and everyone involved, can learn from this bad decision as you said, so that this kind of behavior is not repeated.
Posted by Kim on March 30, 2011 at 5:24 am
It makes me sad for this generation that they are so removed from the history of racism that they are dismissing this incident as a joke (which I think it was meant to be but an ignorant one) or blown out of proportion. I am so happy that this issue has been “blown out of proportion” because it gives us, the community and students, a chance to come together and figure out how we have come to a point where a group such as the KKK has become so down played and lost meaning that our teenagers are okay with blowing it off so easily. The KKK wardrobe is one that represents racism and terror. It saddens me that so many kids blew this meaning off. So if this situation is being blown out of proportion than Blow Away. We are long over due to educate. I am sad that the Administration was caught in the middle but I agree with Brandon that this is not Larz fault, he just drew attention to something that we can all learn from. I do hope that Mackay learns from this situation and becomes a great man, who can lead by example.
This is a great opportunity for us to take our kids aside and educate them about history and how the KKK and Hitler victimized certain minorities. If you were not part of that minority than how can understand how they are feel.
Posted by Brandon on March 30, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Well said Kim! This kind of issues can’t be pushed aside or swept under the rug, otherwise nobody learns good lessons from these prevailing issues.
Posted by ... on May 14, 2011 at 2:35 am
lets hope the masses get educated about the violent illegal activities of 1920′s gangsters and the rape-happy, murderous nature of pirates. It seems that we have lost the meaning to those too and it sickens me to see such violent groups portrayed during halloween and in kids’ movies!! its despicable!!!
*obvious sarcasm to point out fallacy in your argument**
Posted by Shanny on March 30, 2011 at 6:55 am
Let me summarize it all for everyone:
McKay is an idiot kid. A product of rich white parents who have rarely if ever said no to McKay his entire life. This family is as arrogant as you will ever meet in this lifetime and they are all about their possessions. These parents have done nothing but tell McKay how great he is from the second he was born. They brag like no one you will ever hear. Its disgusting and it has produced a kid that thinks he can do whatever the hell he pleases whenever he wishes.
Exhibit A: KKK hat at at the spirit rally.
Having said that, I do not believe for one second that McKay is a racist. Stupid and arrogant, yes. Racist, no. This will be a tough tough lesson for the kid and for his egomaniac family. Those who say he has lost a scholarship are wildly misinformed. He got torched plenty in the secondary last year and even cost Alta at least one or two games on his very own. Playing at the next level not likely in the mix. Having said that, a scholarship is not really needed for this kid as folks are loaded, just ask them (actually you won’t need to).
Now on to the race baiter, Larz Cosby. This is the perfect storm kiddies. Arrogant self absorbed kid pulls racist like stunt in front of what can only be considered a race baiter. I base this on what has happened since the incident occurred. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its probably a duck. Larz actions to me are now worse than McKay’s. If this whole situation were happening the other way around, there would not be a situation at all. My guess is that in addition to local media, this family has probably already contacted plenty of national types like Al Sharpton, Oprah, Jesse Jackson and down the line. You wait, it will happen because its what race baiters do and its despicable.
I am no fan of McKay or his pius parents but I do not agree with how this is coming down. Reverse discrimination is alive and well and this is a perfect example of it.
Larz, let this go. You are bringing out the very worst in people with your actions and your unwillingness to accept an apology and let this go. If you act this way the rest of your life, it will be filled with discontent. That I can promise you. What you are doing now is far worse than the original idiotic action. It only works in today’s whacky mixed up world where reverse decriminalization is far stronger than supposed real racism (especially among todays generation).
Posted by Brandon on March 30, 2011 at 5:35 pm
I respect your comments as you have some valid points.
It is important to clarify one thing: reverse discrimination. There is no such thing as reverse discrimination. Discrimination is a form of hatred, as is racism. There is no such thing as reverse hatred. As such, there is not such thing as discrimination.
Either you hate someone or you don’t; you discriminate or you don’t. There is no such thing as kind of hating someone or sort of discriminating against another.
The term reverse discrimination is used as a means to make those in the majority (Whites) feel like more of a victim than those typically being oppressed through common, everyday racism. Racism or discrimination, IN ANY FORM, should be intolerable to everyone.
Posted by Shanny on March 30, 2011 at 6:46 pm
@Brandon @Katherine. I’m sorry. You two are both in loco land with this “no such thing as reverse discrimination, it’s only to make whites feel better crap”. It’s the world we live in now. Here is a definition for you just in case you are still uncertain as to how the world works now. Do a google search on the word. It will be enlightening for both of you.
“Reverse discrimination, also known as positive discrimination, is a controversial specific form of discrimination against members of a dominant or majority group, or in favor of members of a minority or historically disadvantaged group. Groups may be defined in terms of race, gender, ethnicity, or other factors. This discrimination may seek to redress social inequalities where minority groups have been denied access to the same privileges of the majority group. In such cases it is intended to remove discrimination that minority groups may already face. “Reverse discrimination” may also be used to highlight the discrimination inherent in affirmative action programs.”
If you are a minority, you can get away with damn near anything while white folks end up with situations just like the one we are speaking of at Alta. The discimination has reversed course in this day and age. We can all thank peeps like Al Sharpton and the Reverend Jesse Jackson for that.
Posted by Brandon on March 30, 2011 at 7:08 pm
You can find anything on Google, if you try hard enough. Prominent Race and Gender experts along with a multitude of textbooks on this these subjects beg to differ. The history of these topics reveals the rational and reasoning behind the creation of the term reverse discrimination.
I am bi-racial. Let’s say that a minority discriminates against me. Is that reverse discrimination against 50% of my Caucasian side? If a White person discriminates against me because of my 50% minority side, is that “regular” discrimination? Where should we draw the line here?
Semantics aside, the point we are making is that discrimination is the same in any form or fashion, regardless of what you want to call it! Thus, making reverse discrimination a useless term.
I am disappointed to hear you feel that way about minorities. My family immigrated to this country and I can tell you they didn’t get away with anything they wanted. They worked hard, very very hard! And they still do. I have seen instances of White people taking advantage of my family members because they felt more superior…AND THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT!
Discrimination is alive and well from every angle. There is no reversing of it. There are just a lot more people discriminating against each other while try to pretend that they are not breeding hatred because they believe to be in the “right”.
Posted by Katherine on March 30, 2011 at 11:45 am
MacKay is sorry – sorry he got caught.
In the video, Zack Larsen points out that donning a white pillow much like KKK hoods was a joke on the seniors, who were wearing black. However, does this explain why he went on to make, “heil Hitler,” salutes? Hilter, who was a proponent of racial cleansing, killed off Jews, non-Jewish Poles, Communists and political opponents, members of resistance groups, homosexuals, Roma, the physically handicapped and mentally disabled, Soviet prisoners of war (possibly as many as three million), Jehovah’s Witnesses, Adventists, trade unionists, and psychiatric patients. If you are Mormon, as many in Utah are, Hitler probably would have killed you too. And yet despite wearing an ill-chosen costume and recalling Hitler, MacKay was not stopped or approached about his antics by the administration until Larz spoke with them. According to the blog post, media attention came after the administration was contacted. They were not side-stepped.
People argue here that it was not MacKay’s intent to hurt people’s feelings or to be racist, but this is an apology that comes after he got caught. Whether his apology should be taken completely seriously is still up for debate. By junior year of high school, he could not have been 100% innocent from knowing that, “heil Hitler,” salutes are racist. Yet, McKay still hailed Hitler. His actions do not match up with his words saying that he was, “unaware.”
Another argument is that this situation is being blown out of proportion. I am not one to jump to the media about racist topics because the media puts their own spin on issues. However, the fact that administration did not intervene until Larz brought it to their attention is an issue in itself. Zack Larsen points out that perhaps the administration didn’t have time to react because the incident was so quick, but why did they not have a talk with McKay immediately after he sat down? Did none of the, “educated teachers,” who are supposed to teach our children right and wrong, recognize that these antics were wrong? This shows an inherent institutional ignorance about racism – by the same institution that teaches our kids!
The media could have also been contacted for many other reasons. There are media crawlers to search for hot topics. There are lawyers who want leverage in a situation. There is no use speculating about how the media got wind of this incident, but it raises the important subject that the institutional ignorance needs to be addressed, which probably would never have been addressed otherwise. Investigations, stated by ABC, showed that there were more racial incidents at Alta High School within the last twelve months. There needs to be investigation into whether our educational leaders and teachers are teaching prejudicially or teaching others to be prejudice. Even if you do not realize it, an administrator ignoring a racist incident can make others think that acting in a similarly racist manner is OK. It is not okay.
@Shanny: You discuss reverse discrimination, but you do not understand what reverse discrimination is. It is a construct created by the White majority in America to excuse their own prejudicial and discriminatory actions. You don’t hear Asians saying they experience, “reverse discrimination,” because they are in the minority. Why is it called, “reverse discrimination?” Well, there must be a form of discrimination in the first place to have its reverse. Why would people in minorities act discriminatory against the majority? Because there is discrimination in the first place. How did Larz act discriminatory against MacKay here? Did he paint himself white, wear a polo and khakis, and proceed to dance poorly? No. Also, why do you use individuals like Al Sharpton or Oprah as examples of people who speak for all African-Americans? There are plenty of African-Americans who don’t like Al Sharpton. Read more FACTS.
@Everyone: Educate yourselves. Did you know that a White driver is more likely to have illegal drugs in the vehicle than a Black person, yet even so, Black drivers are pulled over and searched more frequently? Did you know that between 1991 and 2000, “there had been nearly one million African Americans who had died, who wouldn’t have died had they merely had health care equal to that of their white counterparts?” (Tim Wise, “Speaking Treason Fluenty,” p. 84). It would behoove anyone, as a good American, to read more, learn more, and act better than our forefathers.
@Larz: I have read many cases about racism, from small to big. There is always a grey area where both sides can be right and wrong. The fact is that you approached this in the right manner by contacting a close friend, contacting administration, and then proceeding. Don’t be discouraged and reach out if you need help. This racism beast is a lot bigger than just you and me and you shouldn’t have to handle it alone. Stay strong and I hope you can continue to educate people about diversity.
Posted by Brandon on March 30, 2011 at 5:44 pm
So glad you pointed out the misconception of reverse discrimination! It is such a widely and misused term. There is so much about racism that very few people know about. Sadly, this is because of a poor educational system and a country with a government that doesn’t want to expose its horrible and ugly past, even if it could help our society be more understanding and compassionate.
People sometimes say you have to fight fire with fire. This is never true! The comments on this blog show that may people are doing the same thing: FIGHTING HATRED WITH MORE HATRED.
Education about these issue and love/compassion for others are the best weapons in fighting against hatred and intolerance. Students at Alta High can weather this storm well if they apply these methods to this situation.
Posted by ... on March 30, 2011 at 9:28 pm
okay, get you facts strait:
1-Mackay did not perform a ‘heil hitler’ sign, as said by ‘Junior’ earlier.
2-The administration did intervene and suspend Mackay RIGHT after the assembly, before Larz wrote his blog.
3-Larz/his father DID contact the news organizations, they submitted this half-truthed blog to the news THAT NIGHT as well.
So, sir, educate YOURSELF before making these assumptions.
Posted by Brandon on March 30, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Your are comments are valid. It is clear that may people are hurt by what has transpired. Most people on this blog seem concerned with why the administration was suspended. The details of why they were suspended are still unknown. But the suspensions call into question how the situation was handled and how well the administration is performing at ensuring a safe and tolerant environment in their school.
The last poster was not personally attacking you or your friend, just stating their concern about how well they think Alta High is being managed by its administrators.
However, based on information in this blog, it does sound like the administration only intervened after Larz notified them that there was a problem (before he wrote his blog). Whether or not this is the case, most onlookers (including myself) feel that the administration may have been too reactive in this situation.
Posted by ... on March 31, 2011 at 3:20 am
I do not believe the administration was at fault. The reason they were put on leave is BECAUSE there is an investigation. Same goes for, as an example, if a police officer shoots and kills a perpetrator, the officer will be put on leave until the investigation is over. That doesn’t mean that the officer was at fault for firing, it’s just protocol. Canyons School District is following protocol.
Posted by Pangie on April 3, 2011 at 11:21 am
” It would behoove anyone, as a good American, to read more, learn more, and act better than our forefathers”
Posted by ... on May 14, 2011 at 2:37 am
everything you said was wrong…
Posted by Kyle on March 30, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Wait, so a piece of shit dressed up as the kkk, wore a hood and hailed hitler? If any part of that is true then go fuck yourself you pieces of shit. He deserves to loose that scholarship because he believes in some ridiculous bedtime story(Mormonism) about an American who could communicate with god and…… White english speaking Jesus? I will be honest I am not familiar with your specific bedtime story but they are all very similar. Also I hope someone punches that guy in the face.
- A white guy who thinks you have to be a piece of shit to do something like this. Maybe someone should have kick your father in the scrotum about 16-18 years ago really hard…
Posted by Jamie on March 30, 2011 at 3:59 pm
WOW!! I have bi-racial children who will soon have to deal with this high school CRAP!! High school is hard for anyone. These kids are finding their way in the world and trying to discover who they really are. I would be very upset if this happened to one of my children. I would be very upset if either Larz or Mckay were my child, for different reasons. Larz,It angers me that you and other students had to experience this form of ‘meathead’ humor. it is NOT funny and should not be tolerated. Mckay, Its saddens me that you brainlessly made humor of something so hurtful. It also saddens me because it must be hard to walk around with that on your shoulders. You now have HUGE strides to make in order to rebuild yourself. I think the best way to handle the situation is to get you boys together to discuss your feelings and resolve this TOGETHER. After that, move on. Life is short, anger and regret can consume you to the point of not living this wonderful life at all. =)
Posted by Levi Lauck on March 30, 2011 at 5:03 pm
It is not an overreaction. The KKK hood is a symbol for hatred, torture, discrimination and violence towards anyone non-white. This may have been a joke and was not intended to offend, but it did. Just because someone accidentally hits a pedestrian with their car and kills them does not mean they are innocent. They had no intention of doing it, but it happened and you have to be held responsible.
Also, I don’t know why people are bringing religion into this, but I am a Caucasian LDS member, and I feel this behavior is wrong and was caused by ignorance. In our religion we are taught to serve everyone, love everyone, forgive everyone of everything and treat others with respect and reverence. So don’t bring the LDS religion into this, because you truly do not know of what you speak.
This kid acted in a heinous and discriminatory way and he offended many people. He may have done it unintentionally, but he did it and it happened. He should pay the consequences for his actions. No one should be harassing anyone for standing up for what they believe in. That is how our country was founded, and that is the outlying characteristic of all great people. Always stand up and protect what is right and what you believe in no matter the consequences.
Posted by OkayThatsEnuf on March 30, 2011 at 5:26 pm
WOH! Okay Kyle, thanks for chiming in. Larz, is there some way to remove Kyle’s vitrolic vomit from your blog? It’s really cool that both sides of the story are speaking out, but come on. Kyle’s crap should be offensive to everyone. I’m just sayin.
Posted by OkayThatsEnuf on March 30, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Ouch! Katherine. I think even I’m offended now. Did you think the following was a good jab?
“How did Larz act discriminatory against MacKay here? Did he paint himself white, wear a polo and khakis, and proceed to dance poorly?”
I don’t dance poorly, and you’re transparent. Stoke the Fire Babe!!
Posted by Yoly on March 30, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Kyle…nice I agree with you completely.
Posted by Altastudent on March 30, 2011 at 6:21 pm
the whole alta student body is being punished for this not just mackay. we walk into school with cops all over the place. we go into class and our teachers inform us that if we say thats so gay or anything like that that they have to report us and we will get punished. i am a senior and i dont want to have to go to school with cops and the media everywhere. i dont want to have to stress and worry am i going to get in trouble for saying this is gay. it should be my fun last year but it isnt because something was blown out of the water. mackay made a mistake and should be punished but should have to lose scholarships. larz is a bully i know from watching him at school. people dont realize how it affects the rest of the school. i literally feel like i go to a prison. they should have handled it privately. thanks a lot larz for ruining the rest of my senior year.
Posted by KD on April 1, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Altastudent – you indicate that this has been blown out of proportion and then you say, “we walk into school with cops all over the place…” The news media (SL Tribune, KSL, Deseret News) all say that there are 3 additional officers at the school this week. Talk about blowing out of proportion!!!!!
Posted by Brandon on April 1, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Maybe you should say something other than “this is so gay.”
It’s also an intolerant phrase to use. Whether you mean harm by it or not, it can still cause harm if used. Is it okay to use the N-word just so long as you don’t mean it in a harmful way?
Police are at your school to reduce the risk of having a riots (racial or otherwise). They are there for your safety. Riots in schools are not uncommon; don’t fool yourself into thinking that Alta High is an exception. The district is mandating these policies to educate on tolerance to protect students like you.
Wouldn’t it be tragic if the district thought that Alta was an exception and didn’t put these measures in place only to have riots and persistent violence and abuse crop up throughout the school?
Posted by doingwhat'sright on March 30, 2011 at 8:03 pm
THIS is what happens when someone dawns a white hood and yells Hiel Hitler! THIS is what happens when ignorance runs rampant. THIS is what happens when a young man of color is expected to LOOK THE OTHER WAY. It takes courage to stand up for what is right.
To quote a wise woman of color…Jolene Kanehele
Courage is doing what’s right in the presence of fear
It takes courage to do what I should when no one is near
Courage is my way of saying, I will follow Thee
When the world walks out on me…..
To the Cosby family, endure to the end! You have the love, understanding, and support of many. Don’t give up!
Posted by Discrimination on March 31, 2011 at 12:49 am
Just FYI, discrimination in Utah isn’t new, and it isn’t always based on the color of one’s skin. Growing up her as a white non-Mormon was awful! But guess what I realized as an adult? Those kids were ignorant and often they were reflecting their PARENTS’ opinions.
What this kid did was obviously wrong, in poor taste and should have been immediately stopped by any and all adult employees at Alta who sat there and watched it happen.
However, what Larz has done isn’t right either. As I now tell my children, two wrongs do not make a right. Being vindictive and always out for revenge will only poison your life. Forgiveness is NOT for the person who harmed you, it’s for YOU!
Posted by ALTA SUCKS on March 31, 2011 at 1:45 am
Wow.. Larz, you are awesome. And if I personally saw shit like that happening, I’d be furious and beat the living crap out of Mackay. So, I think you handled it a lot better.. All you stupid kids who are against Larz, are unintelligent. Racism is racism, and it needs to be dealt with. Really, that Mackay kid deserves to have his kneecaps shot out.. Peace.
Posted by ALTA SUCKS on March 31, 2011 at 1:56 am
Wow.. Larz, you are awesome. And if I personally saw shit like that happening, I’d be furious and beat the living crap out of Mackay. So, I think you handled it a lot better.. All you stupid kids who are against Larz, are unintelligent. Racism is racism, and it needs to be dealt with. Really, that Mackay kid deserves to have his kneecaps shot out..
(…) You say that:
1-Mackay gets humiliated by everyone and anyone who watches the new or goes to the school.
2-The district wastes their time with an investigation.
3-The Alta students now have to deal with this everyday.
4-Sandy police are scared of some big ‘racial riot’ occurring.
5-The school has been branded ‘racist’
WELLLLLLL, if you didn’t want any of this, then dumb-ass Mackay shouldn’t have worn a KKK mask. A joke?? His life is a joke! That’s 110% terrible.
Posted by Tami Casper on March 31, 2011 at 2:01 am
Shame on you who try to stifle one persons right for speaking out for justice. For those of you who are wanting to keep it hush hush makes a person wonder why?? What are you so afraid of that might be uncovered or could be found out?? If you are not part of the problem, you should have no worries. There are hundreds of comments on this blog from students that if you read through them, you would understand that there are some very serious issues that need to be addressed here. The negative, hateful,and sometimes threating comments that spew from some of these students is very scary. If you are a parent of these troubled kids, please pay attention now before it’s too late.
Posted by Elizabeth on March 31, 2011 at 2:24 am
From what I gather from Mackay’s supporters, Larz is more in the wrong than Mackay since Larz spoke out? So should someone who witnessed a murder, or child abuse or a woman who was raped keep silent because it would make them more guilty than the actual perpetrator? I have a son who I pray everyday will stand up for what it right instead of worrying about what people will say. People make mistakes, but no one has the right to mock people’s suffering for a cheap joke. Cowards make excuses. The only people who should be ashamed of this event getting to the public is the Mackay, his parents, the school administrators for not intervening to stop it immediately, and the people who make excuses for it, since if they weren’t a bunch of followers who cared more about being cool and fitting in, maybe Mackay would have never been foolish enough to do something so heartless and stupid. He should have had a friend who cared enough about it to tell him not to do it. I would hope that my son will have friends who care more about him to stop him from doing something thoughtless than caring more about people calling them a loser for stepping in to put an end to it. @Shanny:I am assuming that you are under the age of 18 and do not have any close friends who belong to a racial minority. Next time you go to any public function in your community, please take note of the racial make-up of everyone there. Also, visit your parents place of work, and take note of the race of those in the corner offices. Or the next State of the Union address, please count all the faces that are not Caucasian. Then think about the statement that you made that minorities get away with everything and figure out how that statement could even possibly true when more than 90% of the faces that you counted in your community, at the office and in government were Caucasian faces. When you grow up and get out in the real world, I hope you one day make friends who don’t have the same racial background as you so that you can learn from them and they from you, so you won’t grow up to be a close-minded adult raising children who lack empathy. I used have the same lack of empathy, except towards homosexuals; it is true that a lot of times, we fear what we do not understand. All it takes is opening your heart enough to listen with an open mind and try to understand. You may not see it right now, but you will miss out on so much in life staying in one little box.
Posted by manaen on March 31, 2011 at 6:53 am
Many of the comments here dishearten me greatly. I had hoped that Utah’s culture might have improved in the 30+ years since the revelation on the priesthood. My naive mistake!
How could so many of you not see the enormity of the offense here? How could you even suppose to blame the victim???
Fortunately, Utah is no longer the face of the LDS Church. Fewer than 1 in 8 of the world’s Mormons now lives in Utah; there are more Mormons just in Mexico and California than in Utah. You are an odd anomaly among the Church’s membership and fortunately, it’s becoming easier to explain that to non-LDS.
Furthermore, 1 in 12 of the world’s Mormons are of black-African descent. This group is growing faster than the LDS membership in Utah so we shortly will have more black Mormons than Utah Mormons. I can only hope that will bring some enlightment to the benighted minority in Utah.
Maybe then you will realize just how far away from the prevailing views of the Church you place your selves — and finally give up this embarassing nonsense of attacking a victim of racism for complaining. He showed remarkable restraint by *only* going to the news with this. You rightly would have group after group of protestors in your face — among whom you would find me — for supposing to minimize this offense in more spiritually attuned areas.
Posted by manaen on March 31, 2011 at 6:58 am
BTW, here is the developing face of Mormonism:
Mormon Church in Southwest Los Angeles (Watts)
Posted by AnOnYmOuS on March 31, 2011 at 3:27 pm
As an Alta graduate I can see how sparks of racism could easily fly. I graduated several years ago and witnessed incidents of racial slurs towards minorities but also an incident of a white “nerdy” friend being beat up by a group of minorities because “the cracker was too smart for his own good”. The fact is that racism still exists in the world and that can’t be ignored. Will everyone ever be tolerant? No I do not believe so.
Pertaining to this individual case there are only a few things which have remained clearly objective and not influenced by personal biases.
1. White student put on a WHITE PILLOW CASE with eye holes cut out and ran around the court on March 18th
2. Minority student took offense and went to school administration who suspended the white student on March 18th
3. Minority student posts blog and sends it out to 124 different media outlets on March 18th (reference Facebook)
4. White student publicly apologizes via Facebook March 19th
These are the only events that the public/media have had access to. The account of the minority student is automatically biased as is the account of the white student. Both are trying to protect themselves and put their interests first.
For example: Minority student interprets White students white pillow case as KKK hood, white student thinks its a prank against senior class. White student “taunts” senior class, minority student sees it as a Heil Hitler.
The fact is that no one other than the two individuals involved know the true motives behind it and they only know their own motives not the other. If we are looking to be offended we can find something. If we want to put on a face and “feel sorry” we can easily do that. I’m not saying who’s wrong or right here but saying that we all need to realize that what is reported isn’t always 100% true.
Was the white student acting thoughtlessly? Yes! It’s high school they do dumb things. Was the minority student seeking to be in the spotlight? We don’t know so let’s not speculate!
The main thing the public needs to take out of all this is that racism does still exist, it’s not a thing of the past. Some are more sensitive about it than others, but a general respect for all people should be the guiding rule.
It’s also important to remember that the media loves juicy stories, it’s what helps them maintain readers. When I was overseas during the Swine Flu epic, I was under the impression that everyone was infected, everyone was dying because the media was my only source of info. Once I actually spoke with a family member I realized that the media can alter the appearance of things.
Let’s all learn from this lesson, leave as more educated and tolerant people, and only stick to that which is objective leaving personal biases and opinions out. The two individuals have settled their differences, justice has been “dealt”, it’s time to move on and focus on a broad education of tolerance for all people.
Posted by Really!?! on March 31, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Yeah post a video that doesnt even work….. its not even on youtube anymore because the account holder took it off…. REALLY? C’mon man post a video and keep it on!
Posted by Vanessa Paulsen on April 1, 2011 at 4:57 am
Look I understand what Larz is going threw. Everyday in school as I walk the halls or at lunch kids are always calling me “towelhead” “terrist” “Camel a$$” etc.. Even today as I was walking into Alta Larz was to my far right and a group of white kids to my left yelled out “KKK!” in the direction of Larz. So as a sophomore I know that it is hard but being a white Muslim girl in an majority LDS community is harder then you think. So put yourselves in Larzs’ posisition. Then judge him and then yourself.
Posted by Brandon on April 1, 2011 at 4:44 pm
I’m sorry to hear that Vanessa. I don’t think a majority of the students understand how blind they are to intolerance, especially in view of all that is going on at Alta.
I have hear horrible stories similar to your experience about teachers from other high schools in Canyons School district say those hateful comments to their middle-eastern refugee students. This kind of discrimination happens in the Salt Lake valley way more than anyone wants to admit.
Posted by Kevin Nguyen on April 1, 2011 at 7:21 am
Swastikas, racial epithets, and Confederate flags all over my locker door. Students in gym class taking off their shirts and drawing swastikas on their chest a la “American History X.” Are you telling me no one else noticed this was going on? As in, the hall monitors (who are there to ensure our safety) didn’t notice the art on locker as they walked by? I still remember the names of the people who harassed me those days. All this and more, from an Asian-American graduate of Alta High School, class of 2000.
This shit has been going on for a long time!
Posted by concerned on April 1, 2011 at 10:16 pm
I sent a copy of the boys blog to the local newspaper once I read it and saw the responses from other kids ranging from threats to intimidation. Apparently others in the news already knew of and were posting on the story.
Your son is strong to stand up against this. The reason why this happens is because people stay silent. My parents and even myself lived through horrible racism at there school but when they wanted to stand up against it were told “just relax, its just jokes…dont be one of those types of n-words!” This needs to be stopped, and it is a type of cyber bullying that few in the media speak of.
Posted by concerned on April 1, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Sorry that accidentally came out as a copypaste. I sent that msg to your fathers msg board.
To be short, I just wanted to say ignore the little racists here, and report all threats. If the local law enforcement do nothing, go to the feds. My parents and I went through similar racism growing up in the south. We were told to ‘its just jokes…dont be so sensitive’ at first. Then the fights started after the kkk and racial slurs got too common, and of course after staying silent, the black kids were pointed out as the ‘problem. When it finally was reported, officials said they had no record of previous activity, and of course the black kids get kicked out for fighting, and the racism continues.
Dont stay silent. Stand up. Its sad that this day in age we still must fight this crap, but the modern political atmosphere has incited a lot of people that were more passive and silent in racism to go on the offensive. Usually they dont even think racist comments or slurs of beliefs are racism. Thats a psychological self legitimization. Ignore what they say. You know whats right. SPEAK UP!
Posted by Sarah C. on April 2, 2011 at 1:29 am
Larz, good for you. No effort to interrupt oppression is ever wasted. I’m standing with you in spirit.
- Sarah from Oakland
Posted by Ed W on April 2, 2011 at 12:22 pm
This dumbass mormon KKK kid is only lucky that he lives inside of his bubble of Utah…
If he did that in about any other state he most likely would have had his god damned mormon head blown off!
Kids – don’t fuck around like that. Dressing up in a costume like that is no laughing matter. Grow up.
Posted by former alta student on April 5, 2011 at 8:48 am
he was wearing a pillow case. not a KKK hood, it was a spirit bowl, he was SUPPOSED TO WEAR ALL WHITE
Posted by Isaac on May 2, 2011 at 1:59 am
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Posted by Pangie on April 3, 2011 at 11:07 am
Larz, I commend you for stepping forward and speaking up about this issue!! This will make you stronger. As for the community that people are accusing you of destroying,a community I’m positive they don’t include you to be a part of anyway, if they gain or learn nothing from this other than more hate and intolerance, that’s on them.
I’m a Black female who was born in Utah. I went to elementary, junior high and graduated high school here. I KNOW first hand and have experienced first hand the subtle and blatant racism from students during my time at school in this state. I remember my first encounter with a racist joke in like 3rd grade where a white kid walked up to me and asked me “what did the chainsaw say to the black man?….Run nigger, run nigger, run nigger!!!” That very same day I became best friends with a girl from Mexico who’d encountered her own racist treatment from white students at the school. I remember having white friends who weren’t allowed to come to my house and I was not welcome to go to theirs. We could only be friends when we played outside together. Most interesting, I remember being told, in so many words, that if I joined “the church” though, none of that would matter…..apparently being LDS and Black was better than just being Black in this state.
I’ve left Utah and have come back several times due to family ties. Sadly, clearly, nothing has changed. I’ve lived back east most of my life but I moved back here a year and a half ago and upon making new friends and hanging out different places out here I still encounter racism in subtle and blatant ways. Only in this state I’ve encountered being told in different ways that I’m “so pretty for a Black girl.” Only in this state have I heard more white kids use the the word “nigga” and then turn around in the same breath and give a fake apology because I was within earshot, as if they didn’t drop that word on the regular basis. I can’t say I’m surprised by any of this. Black folks make up less then 2% of the population here. It’s not surprising that the majority doesn’t think what has happened at Alta High is a big deal. It’s happening at EVERY school in this state in one way or another. Until more people (NOT JUST BLACK PEOPLE) in this state speak up/out, as they have a right to do no matter how little their population may be in this state, nothing will ever change. This incidence IS A BIG DEAL. Too bad it’s taken this long to speak on it as it’s been going on for a loooong time.
Continue to do what you’re doing young Larz. Despite majority belief, you’re doing the “community” who’s so quick to hang you up in town square for speaking up a HUGE favor! Walk tall and keep your head up and know you have A LOT of support from not only the Black community here in this state but from EVERYONE who is dedicated to ending racism and intolerance in every way….no matter how small it may seem.
I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors
Posted by former alta student on April 5, 2011 at 8:45 am
this is ridiculous. I am bi-racial and i attended alta all three years of high school and graduated in 2010. there was never any racist comments or actions to me, or ever around me. all these people are commenting who never attended alta so let me explain. all three classes have color representation, your supposed to represent your color. these boys were both juniors, who happen to be assigned the color WHITE, so Mackay was just showing his school spirit, while representing the whole junior class (including Larz). it wasnt a intended to be a KKK hood, it was a pillow case. be patient everyone, and next year when he dressed in all black, tell him he’s “racist”.
Posted by Former Mormon on April 6, 2011 at 1:46 am
That is only one of many racist scriptures taught to the youth in the Mormon church.
Posted by Dorothy Perkins on April 7, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Larz I just wanted to commend you on standing up for what is right. You did do the right thing and I’m proud of you for standing up to your ignorant classmates. This is why people call Utah a state with sheltered, ignorant people. I guarantee you that if this kid was in a school that was dominantly african american he wouldn’t have pulled a stupid stunt like that. And people wouldn’t be telling you to “lighten up” because people who are culturally well rounded know that this is out of bounds.
Posted by Gus Lawrence on April 8, 2011 at 2:45 am
Greetings Mr. Cosby,
My name is Gus, and I operate a talk radio program exclusively focused on Racism. I make an effort to share constructive information, current events, publications and projects related to Racism. Tim Wise, Dr. Peggy McIntosh, Cynthia McKinney and a myriad of other authors and scholars from around the globe have been guests on my program. We discussed your experience on a recent program, and we would appreciate the chance to have you as a guest. I was disgusted by the alleged joke. But more importantly, we were inspired by your courage. Racism will fall when more people are willing to oppose Racists in the same way that you did. I would love to hear more about the help you have received in solving this problem. I know we can learn a great deal from you, Mr. Cosby. I am certain your itinerary remains congested, and I will do all that I can to conform to your schedule. Please, contact me if you are willing to speak with us. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Take excellent care, sir.
Posted by Person on April 11, 2011 at 10:50 pm
I think that we should take the offender and all his supporters and move him to a place where he will be part of a minority and where he can gain an appreciation for different ethnicities. That being said, I think that this whole thing is kind of being blown out of proportion in the sense that the whole national recognition was unnecessary. The district should have swooped in and solved the problem before channel five news got their hands on it.
Posted by Jake G on April 20, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Hi, im in a social sciences class at the University of Utah, and we’re doing a study about the discrimination rates and cuases around the area. If everyone could just take a minute and fill this out that would be great! Thanks
Posted by Anonymous on April 29, 2011 at 4:37 am
to mile_man — news flash, but my whole school wasn’t even there, and tons of us were offended. So grow up and realize how insensitive you are being.
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